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		<title>By: green_v</title>
		<link>http://nittanywhiteout.com/2009/07/06/fallacies-of-your-ordinary-college-playoff-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-2878</link>
		<dc:creator>green_v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree that government (Hatch) shouldn&#039;t be anywhere near college athletics.  That is why there&#039;s the NCAA.  It&#039;s their job to organize college athletics, which includes post season competitions.  However, since when does the Presidents of colleges have power over the NCAA (&quot;my school isn&#039;t going play no playoff games&quot;).  That&#039;s crazy.  It obviously shows who really is running Division 1A college football.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why has Div. 1-AA, excuse me, FCS, found success in running a playoff system?  They began with eight teams and will soon balloon to 20 teams in 2010.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is definitely not hard to organize a playoff system consisting of conference champions.  What is making it difficult is millions of dollars that the big schools would lose by not having their automatic bids to the bcs bowl games.  Money.  That is what the key is to all this hoopla.  Not the whole &quot;not letting the non-bcs teams be involved&quot; junk.  Think about it...aren&#039;t both Fresno State and Florida division 1A teams?  Only the bcs system separates the two teams.  A playoff system would bring equality to division 1A college football.  Equality not in the sense of affirmative action, but equality in giving a smaller division 1A school (such as a Fresno State) a chance of beating a larger division 1A school (such as a USC) in the playoffs or if so possible, in the championship.   The BCS only chooses the select few.  Not because of what they are doing on the field, but because that team happens to be popular with the media and fans.  The American way would be to have a playoff and let the field determine who is champion, not the press or computers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I could say more about this subject, but really it would mean nothing, because ultimately, this whole subject is about greed and those who don&#039;t want to give it up.  Until that is remedied, we can debate or whatever til we are blue and it would be just that...meaningless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that government (Hatch) shouldn&#39;t be anywhere near college athletics.  That is why there&#39;s the NCAA.  It&#39;s their job to organize college athletics, which includes post season competitions.  However, since when does the Presidents of colleges have power over the NCAA (&#8220;my school isn&#39;t going play no playoff games&#8221;).  That&#39;s crazy.  It obviously shows who really is running Division 1A college football.  </p>
<p>Why has Div. 1-AA, excuse me, FCS, found success in running a playoff system?  They began with eight teams and will soon balloon to 20 teams in 2010.  </p>
<p>It is definitely not hard to organize a playoff system consisting of conference champions.  What is making it difficult is millions of dollars that the big schools would lose by not having their automatic bids to the bcs bowl games.  Money.  That is what the key is to all this hoopla.  Not the whole &#8220;not letting the non-bcs teams be involved&#8221; junk.  Think about it&#8230;aren&#39;t both Fresno State and Florida division 1A teams?  Only the bcs system separates the two teams.  A playoff system would bring equality to division 1A college football.  Equality not in the sense of affirmative action, but equality in giving a smaller division 1A school (such as a Fresno State) a chance of beating a larger division 1A school (such as a USC) in the playoffs or if so possible, in the championship.   The BCS only chooses the select few.  Not because of what they are doing on the field, but because that team happens to be popular with the media and fans.  The American way would be to have a playoff and let the field determine who is champion, not the press or computers.</p>
<p>I could say more about this subject, but really it would mean nothing, because ultimately, this whole subject is about greed and those who don&#39;t want to give it up.  Until that is remedied, we can debate or whatever til we are blue and it would be just that&#8230;meaningless.</p>
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		<title>By: FSDogs1</title>
		<link>http://nittanywhiteout.com/2009/07/06/fallacies-of-your-ordinary-college-playoff-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-2876</link>
		<dc:creator>FSDogs1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And because their strength of schedule is hampered by bad conference mates they are forced to play each year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And because their strength of schedule is hampered by bad conference mates they are forced to play each year.</p>
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		<title>By: FSDogs1</title>
		<link>http://nittanywhiteout.com/2009/07/06/fallacies-of-your-ordinary-college-playoff-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-2875</link>
		<dc:creator>FSDogs1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Charlie, and our disagreement on the subject is definitely nothing personal. I appreciate the debate and you have presented a lot of conference financial research.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One thing I&#039;d like to point out with that though, is being in a conference full of successful, semi-successful and big name schools gives an inherent advantage monetarily. Fresno State, unfortunately, is stuck with bottom feeders like Utah State, Idaho and New Mexico State (who will likely never be good). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When you share a conference with other successful programs and name schools, it brings everybody up, earns everyone more money, better and bigger facilities, better recruits, better access, etc. Fresno State, Boise State and Hawaii (and maybe Nevada) just have each other. The rest of the conference mates makes those programs have to work even harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Charlie, and our disagreement on the subject is definitely nothing personal. I appreciate the debate and you have presented a lot of conference financial research.</p>
<p>One thing I&#39;d like to point out with that though, is being in a conference full of successful, semi-successful and big name schools gives an inherent advantage monetarily. Fresno State, unfortunately, is stuck with bottom feeders like Utah State, Idaho and New Mexico State (who will likely never be good). </p>
<p>When you share a conference with other successful programs and name schools, it brings everybody up, earns everyone more money, better and bigger facilities, better recruits, better access, etc. Fresno State, Boise State and Hawaii (and maybe Nevada) just have each other. The rest of the conference mates makes those programs have to work even harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve M.</title>
		<link>http://nittanywhiteout.com/2009/07/06/fallacies-of-your-ordinary-college-playoff-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-2877</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eventually things will change.  The BCS is in violation of the law and if/when it&#039;s done with the NCAA should step in and take over and sanction the championship.  Why wouldn&#039;t they if that window opened up?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A play-off system doesn&#039;t necessarily mean and end to bowl games..... It would be easy to keep the same bowl tie-ins besides the 8 teams or whatever that got into the playoff.      &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Voter bias is something that can&#039;t really be proven and it takes extremely long to be changed because it&#039;s all based on what they &quot;think&quot;.  There is absolutely no way to attack that and win</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eventually things will change.  The BCS is in violation of the law and if/when it&#39;s done with the NCAA should step in and take over and sanction the championship.  Why wouldn&#39;t they if that window opened up?</p>
<p>A play-off system doesn&#39;t necessarily mean and end to bowl games&#8230;.. It would be easy to keep the same bowl tie-ins besides the 8 teams or whatever that got into the playoff.      </p>
<p>Voter bias is something that can&#39;t really be proven and it takes extremely long to be changed because it&#39;s all based on what they &#8220;think&#8221;.  There is absolutely no way to attack that and win</p>
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		<title>By: green_v</title>
		<link>http://nittanywhiteout.com/2009/07/06/fallacies-of-your-ordinary-college-playoff-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-2347</link>
		<dc:creator>green_v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree that government (Hatch) shouldn&#039;t be anywhere near college athletics.  That is why there&#039;s the NCAA.  It&#039;s their job to organize college athletics, which includes post season competitions.  However, since when does the Presidents of colleges have power over the NCAA (&quot;my school isn&#039;t going play no playoff games&quot;).  That&#039;s crazy.  It obviously shows who really is running Division 1A college football.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why has Div. 1-AA, excuse me, FCS, found success in running a playoff system?  They began with eight teams and will soon balloon to 20 teams in 2010.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is definitely not hard to organize a playoff system consisting of conference champions.  What is making it difficult is millions of dollars that the big schools would lose by not having their automatic bids to the bcs bowl games.  Money.  That is what the key is to all this hoopla.  Not the whole &quot;not letting the non-bcs teams be involved&quot; junk.  Think about it...aren&#039;t both Fresno State and Florida division 1A teams?  Only the bcs system separates the two teams.  A playoff system would bring equality to division 1A college football.  Equality not in the sense of affirmative action, but equality in giving a smaller division 1A school (such as a Fresno State) a chance of beating a larger division 1A school (such as a USC) in the playoffs or if so possible, in the championship.   The BCS only chooses the select few.  Not because of what they are doing on the field, but because that team happens to be popular with the media and fans.  The American way would be to have a playoff and let the field determine who is champion, not the press or computers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I could say more about this subject, but really it would mean nothing, because ultimately, this whole subject is about greed and those who don&#039;t want to give it up.  Until that is remedied, we can debate or whatever til we are blue and it would be just that...meaningless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that government (Hatch) shouldn&#39;t be anywhere near college athletics.  That is why there&#39;s the NCAA.  It&#39;s their job to organize college athletics, which includes post season competitions.  However, since when does the Presidents of colleges have power over the NCAA (&#8220;my school isn&#39;t going play no playoff games&#8221;).  That&#39;s crazy.  It obviously shows who really is running Division 1A college football.  </p>
<p>Why has Div. 1-AA, excuse me, FCS, found success in running a playoff system?  They began with eight teams and will soon balloon to 20 teams in 2010.  </p>
<p>It is definitely not hard to organize a playoff system consisting of conference champions.  What is making it difficult is millions of dollars that the big schools would lose by not having their automatic bids to the bcs bowl games.  Money.  That is what the key is to all this hoopla.  Not the whole &#8220;not letting the non-bcs teams be involved&#8221; junk.  Think about it&#8230;aren&#39;t both Fresno State and Florida division 1A teams?  Only the bcs system separates the two teams.  A playoff system would bring equality to division 1A college football.  Equality not in the sense of affirmative action, but equality in giving a smaller division 1A school (such as a Fresno State) a chance of beating a larger division 1A school (such as a USC) in the playoffs or if so possible, in the championship.   The BCS only chooses the select few.  Not because of what they are doing on the field, but because that team happens to be popular with the media and fans.  The American way would be to have a playoff and let the field determine who is champion, not the press or computers.</p>
<p>I could say more about this subject, but really it would mean nothing, because ultimately, this whole subject is about greed and those who don&#39;t want to give it up.  Until that is remedied, we can debate or whatever til we are blue and it would be just that&#8230;meaningless.</p>
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		<title>By: FSDogs1</title>
		<link>http://nittanywhiteout.com/2009/07/06/fallacies-of-your-ordinary-college-playoff-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-2345</link>
		<dc:creator>FSDogs1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And because their strength of schedule is hampered by bad conference mates they are forced to play each year.</description>
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		<title>By: FSDogs1</title>
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		<dc:creator>FSDogs1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Charlie, and our disagreement on the subject is definitely nothing personal. I appreciate the debate and you have presented a lot of conference financial research.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One thing I&#039;d like to point out with that though, is being in a conference full of successful, semi-successful and big name schools gives an inherent advantage monetarily. Fresno State, unfortunately, is stuck with bottom feeders like Utah State, Idaho and New Mexico State (who will likely never be good). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When you share a conference with other successful programs and name schools, it brings everybody up, earns everyone more money, better and bigger facilities, better recruits, better access, etc. Fresno State, Boise State and Hawaii (and maybe Nevada) just have each other. The rest of the conference mates makes those programs have to work even harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Charlie, and our disagreement on the subject is definitely nothing personal. I appreciate the debate and you have presented a lot of conference financial research.</p>
<p>One thing I&#39;d like to point out with that though, is being in a conference full of successful, semi-successful and big name schools gives an inherent advantage monetarily. Fresno State, unfortunately, is stuck with bottom feeders like Utah State, Idaho and New Mexico State (who will likely never be good). </p>
<p>When you share a conference with other successful programs and name schools, it brings everybody up, earns everyone more money, better and bigger facilities, better recruits, better access, etc. Fresno State, Boise State and Hawaii (and maybe Nevada) just have each other. The rest of the conference mates makes those programs have to work even harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve M.</title>
		<link>http://nittanywhiteout.com/2009/07/06/fallacies-of-your-ordinary-college-playoff-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-2342</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eventually things will change.  The BCS is in violation of the law and if/when it&#039;s done with the NCAA should step in and take over and sanction the championship.  Why wouldn&#039;t they if that window opened up?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A play-off system doesn&#039;t necessarily mean and end to bowl games..... It would be easy to keep the same bowl tie-ins besides the 8 teams or whatever that got into the playoff.      &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Voter bias is something that can&#039;t really be proven and it takes extremely long to be changed because it&#039;s all based on what they &quot;think&quot;.  There is absolutely no way to attack that and win</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eventually things will change.  The BCS is in violation of the law and if/when it&#39;s done with the NCAA should step in and take over and sanction the championship.  Why wouldn&#39;t they if that window opened up?</p>
<p>A play-off system doesn&#39;t necessarily mean and end to bowl games&#8230;.. It would be easy to keep the same bowl tie-ins besides the 8 teams or whatever that got into the playoff.      </p>
<p>Voter bias is something that can&#39;t really be proven and it takes extremely long to be changed because it&#39;s all based on what they &#8220;think&#8221;.  There is absolutely no way to attack that and win</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhhh, that&#039;s the way playoffs have worked for their entire history.  That&#039;s why they&#039;re so exciting.  It doesn&#039;t matter what happens in the regular season.  If you get into the playoff, anything can happen.  If your argument is that a playoff doesn&#039;t determine the best team, then you would have to strip them from every sport.  In some sports, that would give you a clear winner based on regular season performance (which I think would be the most anti-climactic end to a season possible), but not in college football, where you&#039;ll often end up with multiple teams with the same record.  Personally, I think championships should be decided on the field, but hey, if you think they should be decided by a computer and a bunch of fat sports writers, that&#039;s your opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhhh, that&#39;s the way playoffs have worked for their entire history.  That&#39;s why they&#39;re so exciting.  It doesn&#39;t matter what happens in the regular season.  If you get into the playoff, anything can happen.  If your argument is that a playoff doesn&#39;t determine the best team, then you would have to strip them from every sport.  In some sports, that would give you a clear winner based on regular season performance (which I think would be the most anti-climactic end to a season possible), but not in college football, where you&#39;ll often end up with multiple teams with the same record.  Personally, I think championships should be decided on the field, but hey, if you think they should be decided by a computer and a bunch of fat sports writers, that&#39;s your opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And by the way, the MWC is well on their way to earn their automatic bid to the BCS under current rules by 2010 anyways. It is not as if the BCS has a ban on mid major programs in the title game. If Boise State, Utah or Fresno State has the points to be one of the top 2 in the BCS standings by season&#039;s end, they will be in, no questions asked. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hatch&#039;s tantrum about the lack of access shouldn&#039;t really be against a system that actually allows mid majors to play in the title game should they have the points, but it should really be against the voters and their biases that determine those standings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way, the MWC is well on their way to earn their automatic bid to the BCS under current rules by 2010 anyways. It is not as if the BCS has a ban on mid major programs in the title game. If Boise State, Utah or Fresno State has the points to be one of the top 2 in the BCS standings by season&#39;s end, they will be in, no questions asked. </p>
<p>Hatch&#39;s tantrum about the lack of access shouldn&#39;t really be against a system that actually allows mid majors to play in the title game should they have the points, but it should really be against the voters and their biases that determine those standings.</p>
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