Illinois never had the ball while trailing by anything less than two possessions in the 2nd half. They got it to 12, but Cincy marched right back down and scored. I don't see that as particularly threatening. Apparently you do. Yes, Cincy won at Oregon State too–who last time I checked is playing for the PAC-10 championship this week. That point means a little more (maybe alot more) than saying your best team “lost closely” at home to USC.

Iowa lost to Northwestern (supposedly another big win for PSU), who lost to Syracuse (yes, THAT Syracuse).

We went through all of this “Pitt lost to NC State” stuff already. OK. We beat Notre Dame closely (wow, we are stretching it here, since no one blew out Notre Dame this year–unless you somehow think 7 points is a blow out). Your best win, Michigan State, lost to Notre Dame. Does that not count for anything? They lost to Central Michigan as well. That doesn't speak highly for what PSU has accomplished this year.

You also forgot that Pitt beat Navy by more than Ohio State did. Isn't that your best team? Please don't tell me something about how that was the first game of the season and they weren't ready. LOL. You're giving me alot of “almosts”.

And as far as the Big East and Big Ten in BCS bowls, you can look those records up yourself. I don't even have to say anything about that. It's hard to make a case that the Big Ten has been consistent themselves.

Illinois never had the ball while trailing by anything less than two possessions in the 2nd half. They got it to 12, but Cincy marched right back down and scored. I don't see that as particularly threatening. Apparently you do. Yes, Cincy won at Oregon State too–who last time I checked is playing for the PAC-10 championship this week. That point means a little more (maybe alot more) than saying your best team “lost closely” at home to USC.

Iowa lost to Northwestern (supposedly another big win for PSU), who lost to Syracuse (yes, THAT Syracuse).

We went through all of this “Pitt lost to NC State” stuff already. OK. We beat Notre Dame closely (wow, we are stretching it here, since no one blew out Notre Dame this year–unless you somehow think 7 points is a blow out). Your best win, Michigan State, lost to Notre Dame. Does that not count for anything? They lost to Central Michigan as well. That doesn't speak highly for what PSU has accomplished this year.

You also forgot that Pitt beat Navy by more than Ohio State did. Isn't that your best team? Please don't tell me something about how that was the first game of the season and they weren't ready. LOL. You're giving me alot of “almosts”.

And as far as the Big East and Big Ten in BCS bowls, you can look those records up yourself. I don't even have to say anything about that. It's hard to make a case that the Big Ten has been consistent themselves.

The Big Ten isn't great, but Ohio State lost in the final minutes to a good USC team, Iowa beat up on a very good Arizona team and an Iowa State team that was in the Big Twelve north hunt until a couple weeks ago. Wisconsin beat a pretty good Fresno State team by almost the same margin that Cincy did, Purdue almost upset Oregon…yes, I'm grasping at straws here to justify a point I don't really believe. But even if this is a good year for the Big East, with 2 teams ranked in the top 15, it's an anomaly. Your champion last year was ranked, what, 13? and got beat up in the Orange Bowl. Both Pitt, and the Big East, need to improve and maintain consistency so they can be taken seriously.

Once most people see that some sort of evidence suggests the conferences are even (or heaven forbid that the Big East might seem to be ahead in some area), then we just throw that information aside. LOL. Really, now we can't compare anything all of a sudden? Over the years, I have grown used to this, though.

Of course I understand we don't play games on paper. Sure 4-4 and 5-3 is close, but again, you initially made the match-ups and came up with the “experiment”. I bet you thought you had something there. I'm guessing you thought the Big Ten would have the advantage. It's ok. This is the kind of thing I am used to as a Big East supporter.

I'm not arguing. It just goes to show that your initial comment of “For a shitty team in a shitty conference” regarding Pitt and the Big East is kind of laughable given this information (it's really just an opinion without much to back it up). If all of the conferences are down like you say, then aren't we all kind of in the same boat? I don't see much separation in the current level of play (particularly between the Big East and Big Ten). This has been the case for the last couple of years too. It simply isn't true or able to be supported by much objective evidence. What's next? No objective evidence to support anything? Maybe you can see it is a recent trend (that's fine by me), but we don't need to start going back to the “rich and storied history” of the Big Ten. I mean, come on, the Big East has only been around since 1991. Again, we were talking about the current level of play here.

I'm not arguing. It just goes to show that your initial comment of “For a shitty team in a shitty conference” regarding Pitt and the Big East is kind of laughable given this information (it's really just an opinion without much to back it up). If all of the conferences are down like you say, then aren't we all kind of in the same boat? I don't see much separation in the current level of play (particularly between the Big East and Big Ten). This has been the case for the last couple of years too. It simply isn't true or able to be supported by much objective evidence. What's next? No objective evidence to support anything? Maybe you can see it is a recent trend (that's fine by me), but we don't need to start going back to the “rich and storied history” of the Big Ten. I mean, come on, the Big East has only been around since 1991. Again, we were talking about the current level of play here.